Sunday, January 30, 2022

My Descents from Byzantine Emperors and Nobles

NOTE: Because there are multiple dynasties and families involved, to simplify the presentation, I will only include the Emperor's or Noble's descents down to my gateway ancestor, the Reverend Hawte Wyatt, or to where they intersect with other presented lineages. I have included my descent from him in other posts. 

Descent from Emperor Romanos I Lekapenos: 
  1. Romanos I Lekapenos, Byzantine Emperor and Theodora had:
  2. Agatha Lekapene and Romanos Argyros had:
  3. UNKNOWN Argyros had:
  4. UNKNOWN Argyros had:
  5. Basil Argyros had:
  6. UNKNOWN Argyros and Constantine Diogenes had:
  7. Romanos IV Diogenes, Byzantine Emperor and a daughter of Alusian, briefly Tsar of Bulgaria had:
  8. Constantine Diogenes and Theodora Komnene, sister of Byzantine Emperor Alexios I Komnenos had:
  9. Anna Diogenissa and Uroš I, Grand Prince of Serbia had:
  10. Jelena of Serbia and King Béla II of Hungary had:
  11. King Géza II of Hungary and Croatia and Euphrosyne of Kiev had:
  12. King Béla III of Hungary and Croatia and Agnes of Antioch had:
  13. King Andrew II of Hungary and Croatia and Gertrude of Merania had:
  14. King Béla IV the "second founder of the State" of Hungary and Croatia and Maria Laskarina (descendant of Byzantine Emperor Alexios I Komnenos) had:
  15. King Stephen V of Hungary and Croatia and Elizabeth the Cuman had:
  16. Mary of Hungary and Charles II the Lame, King of Naples had:
  17. Margaret of Naples and Charles, Count of Valois had
  18. Joan of Valois and William I the Good, Count of Hainaut had:
  19. Philippa of Hainault and Edward III, King of England had:
  20. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Katherine Swynford had:
  21. Joan Beaufort and Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland had: 
  22. Edward Neville, 3rd Baron Bergavenny and Katherine Howard had:
  23. Margaret Neville and John Brooke, 7th Baron Cobham had:
  24. Thomas Brooke, 8th Baron Cobham and Dorothy Heydon had:
  25. Elizabeth Brooke and Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet had:
  26. Sir Thomas Wyatt the Younger and Jane Haute had:
  27. Sir George Wyatt and Jane Finch had:
  28. The Reverend Hawte Wyatt, Minister of Jamestown, Virginia and Rector of Boxley, Kent
Descent from Emperor Romanos IV Diogenes, defeated at the Battle of Manzikert:

(Descent from Emperor Romanos IV Diogenes is shown in the previous descent, through generation 7)

Descent from Emperor Alexios I Komnenos, initiator of the Komnenian Restoration: 
    1. Alexios I Komnenos, Byzantine Emperor and Irene Doukaina had:
    2. Theodora Komnene and Constantine Angelos had:
    3. Andronikos Doukas Angelos and Euphrosyne Kastamonitissa had:
    4. Isaac II Angelos, Byzantine Emperor and Irene, possibly daughter of Demetrios Tornikes, logothetes of the dromos (possibly a descendant of the Armenian prince Ashot Msaker) had:
    5. Irene Angelina and Philip, King of Germany and Duke of Swabia had:
    6. Maria of Swabia and Henry II, Duke of Brabant had:
    7. Henry III, Duke of Brabant and Adelaide of Burgundy had:
    8. Marie of Brabant and King Philip III "le Hardi" of France had:
    9. Margaret of France and King Edward I "Longshanks" of England had:
    10. Thomas of Brotherton, 1st Earl of Norfolk and Alice de Hales had:
    11. Margaret, Duchess of Norfolk and John Segrave, 4th Baron Segrave had:
    12. Elizabeth Segrave, 5th Baroness Segrave suo jure and John de Mowbray, 4th Baron Mowbray had:
    13. Thomas de Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk and Elizabeth FitzAlan had:
    14. Margaret de Mowbray and Sir Robert Howard had:
    15. Katherine Howard (intersects with generation 22 of the Diogenes descent
    Descent from Emperor John II Komnenos: 
      1. John II Komnenos, Byzantine Emperor and Saint Irene of Hungary had:
      2. (This generation is unknown. It is only known that generation 3 descends from generation 1)
      3. Eudokia Komnene and William VIII, Lord of Montpellier had:
      4. Maria of Montpellier and King Peter II "the Catholic" of Aragon had:
      5. King James I "the Conqueror" of Aragon and Violant of Hungary had:
      6. Isabella of Aragon and King Philip III "le Hardi" of France had: 
      7. King Philip IV "the Fair" of France and Joan I of Navarre had:
      8. Isabella Capet the She-Wolf of France and King Edward II of England had:
      9. King Edward III of England and Philippa of Hainault had:
      10. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Katherine Swynford had:
      11. Joan Beaufort (intersects with generation 21 of the Diogenes descent
      Descent from Emperor Isaac II Angelos:

      (Descent from Emperor Isaac II Angelos is shown in the Alexios I Komnenos descent, through generation 4)

      Descent from Emperor Alexios III Angelos:
        1. Alexios III Angelos, Byzantine Emperor and Euphrosyne Doukaina Kamatera had:
        2. Anna Komnene Angelina and Theodore I Laskaris, Emperor of Nicaea had:
        3. Maria Laskarina and King Béla IV the "second founder of the State" of Hungary and Croatia had:
        4. King Stephen V of Hungary and Croatia (intersects with generation 15 of the Diogenes descent)
        Descent from Theodore I Laskaris, Emperor of Nicaea:
        1. Theodore I Laskaris, Emperor of Nicaea and Anna Komnene Angelina had:
        2. Maria Laskarina (intersects with generation 3 in the prior descent)
        Descent from Theophanu: 
        1. Theophanu and Otto II, Holy Roman Emperor had:
        2. Matilda of Germany and Ezzo, Count Palatine of Lotharingia had:
        3. Richeza of Lotharingia and Mieszko II Lambert, King of Poland had:
        4. Richeza of Poland and Béla I, King of Hungary had:
        5. Géza I, King of Hungary and Sophia had:
        6. Álmos, Duke of Hungary, Croatia and Nyitra and Predslava of Kiev had:
        7. Béla II, King of Hungary (intersects with generation 10 of the Diogenes descent)
        Descent from the Doukas family, 1:
        1. Andronikos Doukas had:
        2. John Doukas, Caesar and Usurper of the Byzantine Empire and Eirene Pegonitissa had:
        3. Andronikos Doukas, Protovestiarios and Protoproedros and Maria of Bulgaria had:
        4. Irene Doukaina (intersects with generation 1 of the descent from Alexios I Komnenos) 
        Descent from the Doukas family, 2: 
        1. Generation 3 of the first Doukas descent had:
        2. Michael Doukas, Protostrator had:
        3. Irene Doukaina and Gregory Kamateros, Logothetes ton sekreton had:
        4. Andronikos Doukas Kamateros, Eastern Orthodox theologian and author of "Sacred Arsenal" had:
        5. Euphrosyne Doukaina Kamatera (intersects with generation 1 of the descent from Alexios III Angelos) 
        Descent from the Argyros family:
        1. Leo Argyros, tourmarchēs had:
        2. Eustathios Argyros, Strategos of Charsianon and Droungarios of the Watch had:
        3. Leo Argyros, Protospatharios and Magistros had:
        4. Romanos Argyros (intersects with generation 2 of the descent from Romanos I Lekapenos) 
        Descent from the Kamateros family: 
        1. Basil had:
        2. Gregory Kamateros, Logothetes ton sekreton (intersects with generation 3 of the secound Doukas descent)
        Probable Descent from the Phokas family:
        1. Phokas had:
        2. Nikephoros Phokas the Elder had:
        3. Bardas Phokas the Elder and UNKNOWN Maleinos had:
        4. Leo Phokas the Younger had:
        5. Sophia Phokaina and Konstantinos Skleros possibly had:
        6. Theophanu (subject of the prior descent from her)
        Descent from a relative of the Monomachos family:
        1. Anastasia of Byzantium (relative of Emperor Constantine IX Monomachos) and Vsevolod I, Grand Prince of Kiev had:
        2. Vladimir II Monomakh, Grand Prince of Kiev and Gytha of Wessex had
        3. Mstislav I, Grand Prince of Kiev and Liubava Dmitrievna Zavidich had:
        4. Euphrosyne of Kiev (intersects with generation 11 of the descent from Romanos I Lekapenos) 

        The Byzantine Empire on the eve of the First Crusade 



        Long Live the Eternal Memory of Byzantium and the Imperial City, Constantinople! 

        Further Links: 
        • https://ancientdescents.com/TornikesSummary.htm   Tornikes Ancestry 
        • https://byzantium-blogger.blog/2019/08/19/the-complete-genealogy-of-byzantine-emperors-and-dynasties-special-edition-article/   The Complete Genealogy of Byzantine Emperors and Dynasties (Special Edition Article) 
        • https://listverse.com/2016/10/07/10-dark-secrets-of-the-byzantine-empire/   10 Dark Secrets Of The Byzantine Empire 

        Ancestral Discoveries: The Origins of Jan Wilmers and Grietje Kijfs of Groningen

        One of my newest ancestral discoveries has been one of my most enjoyable ones, as it all began with a theory of mine, and then finding proof for it within days. And this theory discovered two new ancestors! My 6th great grandmother, Isabellina Jans Wilmers, the mother of my immigrant ancestor Jan Derks Harkema, died on February 19, 1826 according to her death record in the Civil Registration. The document shows that Isebellina Jans Wilmers, dagloonersche (day laborer), wife of Derk Berends Harkema, the daughter of Jan Wilmers, wever (weaver) and Grietje Kijfs, weversche (weaver), aged 51 (so born circa 1775), born at Ulrum, Province of Groningen, died on that day in 1826. 

        The original Civil Registration death record

        After finding this death record, the next objective is to research her parents. While trying to discover their marriage record, I found three records related to their marriage on OpenArch. All were hard to understand, but a Reddit comment from u/19november helped me decipher the information in the records. 

        First, on October 12, 1771, is a marriage registratie (registration). 


        The transcription provided by u/19november: "Jan Wilmers van Burgsteinfurt in het Graafschap Bentheim (Ps? Probably stands for Pruisen); en Grietje Kijf van Groningen, pro qua Hendrik Jan Kijf als Vader.Cop??? Van ad??ie gepasseert. 

        Sidenote: met belastinge te Alrum en Vierhuisen"

        What does this mean? "Jan Wilmers from Burgsteinfurt in the County of Bentheim (Prussia) and Grietje Kijf from Groningen, pro qua (Latin for "for who stands", might be who’s giving her away/who is her legal guardian cause women’s rights in the 1700s) Hendrik Jan Kijf as father. As for the last sentence, all of the other records have the date on which it was written here, but this one doesn’t. I think it may be copied from another book of records, like the second one is as well. The sidenote is: with taxes in Alrum and Vierhuisen"

        Basically, Jan Wilmers of Burgsteinfurt and Grietje Kijfs from Groningen registered to marry on October 12, 1771, with her being given away/or allowed to marry by her father, Hendrik Jan Kijf. 

        On to the second record: a marriage contract from 13 days later, October 25th, 1771. 


        According to u/19november, this record was "long and prosaic" so he didn't transcribe it, although he did translate the bullet points for us. It shows: 

        "* Henricus Cleveringa (lotta titles) was the (possibly mayor?) who wrote the record/did the marriage   

        * Jan Wilmert is the groom, Grietje Kijff (with two ff’s!) is the bride  

        * Friends and witnesses (dedigslieden, had to google that one) were present and agreed to it all.      

        * There’s goods that both bring into the marriage, which will belong to both of them and will become part of the inheritance “na de egte beslaping”

        * So I did some googling on that last phrase, and I found it in more old records. I think it may mean after consummation of the marriage, but I’m not 100% confident on that. Will search on later.

        * Inheritance stuff: if there’s no children, the surviving spouse gets everything. If the deceased still owes anyone anything, the surviving spouse will pay them back. Any children born in the marriage will get equal parts.

        * Witnesses for the groom: Lammer Classen and Hindericus Pieter(s?) Vriessen. It says “als dedigslieden” which means as witnesses, with no mention of the relationship.

        * Witnesses for the bride: Hindrik Jan Kijff en Willemtje Hindriks als vader en moeder. “as father and mother”

        * In the year of our lord 1771, October 25th

        * Interesting info from the side note: this is a copy of the original, which was written in French and confirmed with a seal of green wax" 

        This is a fascinating discovery! This record is extremely important, because not only does it name her father (like in the preceding document), it names her mother! This allowed me to find Grietje's baptism, which I will get back to later. It is also just fascinating to find a marriage contract like this!

        And on to the third and final of the marriage records: their actual marriage, on December 1, 1771. 


        The transcription and translation provided by u/19november: "*Den 2 november hebben haar huwlijks proclamatie laten aanteikene Jan Wilemer(s/t) van hier en Grietje Kijf(f/s) van Groningen en zijn alhier getrouwt den 1 december.*

        On the 2nd of November, Jan Wilemer(s/t) (those two letters are remarkably similar and also spelling was iffy) from here and Grietje Kijf(f/s) from Groningen and were married here on December 1st.

        Since Jan was noted on the third record as being "from here", he probably did move there before the wedding, since the "from" part in this type of record would usually be where you lived, not where you were born."

        Thanks to these three marriage records and the excellent analysis from Reddit, we are now able to show that Jan Wilmers, originally from Burgsteinfurt, Germany (part of the County of Bentheim-Steinfurt, Holy Roman Empire), and Grietje Kijfs, from Groningen, daughter of Hendrik Jan Kijfs and Willemtje Hindriks, married in Ulrum, Province of Groningen, on December 1, 1771, preceded by a marriage contract. 

        Is there more that can be discovered on this family? While I haven't found any more information on Jan Wilmers or his origins in the Holy Roman Empire yet, I have discovered the baptism of Grietje Kijfs, thanks to the marriage contract naming both her parents and her city of origin!


        According to this record, Grietien, daughter of Hindrik Kijff and Willemina Hindrix, born in Groningen (with a reference to the Poelestraat, likely the street her family lived on) was baptized on November 19, 1748 in Groningen, at the Martinikerk, or Martin's Church, the oldest church in Groningen. Further searching also yielded the baptism of a sister Cornelia on July 26, 1747 at the same church. 


        The Martinikerk today


        The Martinikerk
        City Atlas by Georg Braun and Frans Hogenberg 1575


        The Horse Inspection (Martinikerk in the background)
        by Otto Eerelman 1920

        All of these discoveries have led to a very interesting picture being formed of this family, and there's always more research to be done!

        Friday, January 28, 2022

        My United States Roots: Kansas

        My ancestors in the United States have been traced to 24 different States, and if you count marriages as well, 25. As an American citizen, born and raised in the USA, this is a very beautiful thing. It makes me feel very strongly connected to the history and future of our nation. So in order to document my American ancestry, I feel it is best to go by State, to properly understand my ancestors in the context of their lives. 

        The State that my ancestors lived in the shortest is Kansas, the Sunflower State, in the Midwest. Only one of my ancestors lived there, Louisa Maria Goossen, my 3rd great grandmother. According to a book signed by relatives in the possession of my maternal grandfather, after Louisa's remarriage to Henry Schipperus in 1886, the couple moved to Wichita, Sedgewick County, Kansas, the largest city in the State. Their reasons for moving out to Kansas are unknown, although they lived there for at least a few years before returning to Chicago, Illinois, at least in 1888 and 1891. In 1888 they ran an ice cream parlor in Wichita, at 312 Bernice. Due to the destruction of the 1890 Census, no Census records exist which document their presence in Kansas, which is why records like postcards and books and other family heirlooms are so important for genealogy- you may miss important details!

        On Ancestry.com, three historical insights are available which give context to Louisa's time in Wichita. First, the Schoolhouse Blizzard of January 1888. While I do not know when exactly she arrived in Wichita, it is possible that she lived through this event. On January 12, 1888, the Great Plains States, which included Kansas, were struck by a sudden Blizzard, when a warm day was struck with a freak blizzard. Children were stuck at school, which is why it's called the Schoolhouse Blizzard. Overall, 235 people died, including 213 school children. I wonder how my ancestor was affected by this event? Second is the Chisholm Trail. Wichita was one of many towns apparently on the Chisholm Trail, which was a trail used in the post-Civil War era to drive cattle overland from ranches in Texas to Kansas railheads. And third is an especially one. Everyone with early 1900s USA roots knows about the prohibition of Alcohol, and many people have family stories relating to that time. But apparently, Kansas had a prohibition law on the books before national prohibition came into effect. Kansas added alcohol prohibition to the State Constitution in 1881, and this kicked off a never-ending battle, because prohibition never works. Because Louisa and her family were staunch Reformed Christians, I presume that they were supporters of prohibition. These are just some of the historical events that impacted my ancestor, Louisa Maria Goossen, during her time in Kansas. 

        Oh, give me a home where the buffalo roam,
        Where the deer and the antelope play,
        Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
        And the skies are not cloudy all day.




        Sedgewick County, Kansas- the location of Wichita


        Monday, January 17, 2022

        Examples of Maternal Surname Inheritance in my Grafschaft Bentheim Ancestry

        Like many other Dutch American residents of West Michigan, I have a couple of immigrant ancestors from Grafschaft Bentheim, a small, culturally unique region of West Germany on the border with the Netherlands. The people of Grafschaft Bentheim are not Dutch, nor are they German. If you ask them about their identity, they will tell you in their language, Plattdeutsch (Low German): "Wy bin’t Groofshappers!, or, we are Grafschafters! 

        One aspect of their unique culture that has come up in a bit in my research is the maternal inheritance of surnames, which wasn't universal, but common enough for me to notice it happening quite a bit. These were often farm names, as at that time, farm ownership was more important than the family name. 

        According to Bertram Sluys: "A child taking the last name of his mother was actually a fairly common practice in the Netherlands before 1811.  Sometimes the family didn't want a specific name to disappear; in some areas the family inherited the mother's property and the last name went with the property.  Sometimes no reason is apparent.  Check to see if other families in the Hanover area have the same thing happening in the early 1800's.  I know it was happening for property reasons in Grafschaft Bentheim on the border of the Netherlands, considered to belong to Hanover at that time. I have one ancestor from this time period who went by 6 last names: his father's last name and the names coming with his wife's 2 properties, all in Dutch and in German. His daughter inherited the property in Grafschaft Bentheim, so she and her husband also took the name of the property as their last name." 

        For research purposes, I have compiled a list of examples of this that I have found in my Bentheim ancestry: 
        • 3rd great grandmother, Swenne Hulshuis, took the surname of Hulshuis from her mother, her father was surnamed Vos 
        • 4th great grandfather, Gerrit Jan Vos, took the surname of Vos from his mother, his father was surnamed Keuter
        • 4th great grandfather, Jan Hendrik Grote, took the surname of Grote from his mother, his father was surnamed Jurjens
        • 5th great grandfather, Berend Jurjens, took the surname of Jurjens from his mother, his father was surnamed Blekker
        • 6th great grandmother, Fenne Jurjens, took the surname of Jurjens from her mother, her father was surnamed Haamberg
        • 6th great grandmother, Swenne Smit, took the surname of Smit from her mother, her father was surnamed Bekhuis
        • 6th great grandmother, Fenne Tijiink, took the surname of Tijink from her mother, her father was surnamed Gruskamp 
        • 6th great grandfather, Berend Vos, took the surname of Vos from his mother, his father was surnamed Koondering
        • 6th great grandfather, Evert de Weerd, took the surname of de Weerd his mother, his father was surnamed Schüürman 

        Sunday, January 16, 2022

        Ancestral Discoveries: Dutch Marriage Supplements at last!

        In my many years of researching my Dutch ancestry, I've learned that Dutch records are plentiful, but you have to know what you're doing in order to find them. One of the most crucial records for Dutch research after the introduction of the 1811 Civil Registration are the Huwelijksbijlagen, or Marriage Supplements. Ever since 1811, the bride and groom were required to submit several records to prove their eligibility to get married. These records almost always include certified extracts of birth records for the bride and groom, and most importantly, a National Militia Certificate for the groom, which would show that the groom performed his required military duties, due to conscription. These documents usually contained physical descriptions until about 1861, as well as their signature. As I descend from several Dutch couples who married after 1811, these records have long been sought-after by me, especially for the National Militia Certificates. Yet, for the longest time, I have been unable to find any- until yesterday! How did this change, and what does this mean for my Dutch research going forward? 

        First of all, the Huwelijksbijlagen are not indexed. This is the main problem for researchers, as it means you have to sift through the collections to find them. These collections are not found on WieWasWie or seemingly most of the other main Dutch genealogy sites. These collections can be found on FamilySearch, under the appropriate Province's civil registration records. However, you need to know a few details on what you're looking for, or otherwise, like me, you'll quickly find yourself lost within the records. 

        Here's how I figured out how to find them. First, if you have the marriage record on WieWasWie, look for the Aktenummer (Source number on the English version of the site). Most of the Municipal collections of the Huwelijksbijlagen are sorted by year, and then by Aktenummer. This will usually lead you right to the Marriage Supplements for your ancestors. 

        For example, my 6th great grandparents, Jan Been Stephanus and Jantjen Zwep, were married on February 12, 1825 in Elburg, Province of Gelderland. This is after 1811, so Huwelijksbijlagen should exist for this marriage. When I look at the marriage record on WieWasWie, I notice that the Aktenummer is 2. With this information, I can go to FamilySearch and access the collection of Gelderland Civil Registration Records on the site. Under Elburg, I find "Huwelijksbijlagen 1822-1842". Within this collection, I would sift through it until I find 1825, and then the second set of marriage supplements for that year would be the ones for my ancestors. Luckily, I found the supplements for this marriage using these steps, and several others too! The only supplements I had trouble finding were for my 4th great grandparents, Gerrit ter Vree and Gesiena Kamferbeek, but this is because Zwolle, where they married, apparently did not index their Huwelijksbijlagen very well. I found the records after a bit of looking, but it was much harder then for the rest of my ancestors. 

        While I haven't actively studied the Marriage Supplements I have found yet, I seem to have found a new facts, for example, the Baptism date of my 4th great grandfather Gerrit ter Vree and the birth city of my 5th great grandfather Jan Verhoef. Several of my ancestors have physical descriptions on their National Militia Certificates that I would love to analyze, as well as signatures, and my 4th great grandfather Hendrik Otte's Certificate seems to list his regiment, in the Infantry. The Marriage Supplements for my 4th great grandfather Quirinus Huijser seem to include several extracts that could lead to breakthroughs in his ancestry. And this is only what I've found at first glance! Who knows what I will find if I keep looking! And I still have more to find! 

        Further Links
        • https://www.dutchgenealogy.nl/marriage-supplements/   Marriage supplements: gateway to more information about your ancestors
        • https://www.dutchgenealogy.nl/physical-descriptions-in-military-records/   Physical descriptions in military records 
        • https://www.antecedentia.com/2020/06/marriage-supplements-for-jan-pieter-pool/   Marriage Supplements For Jan Pieter Pool 

        Ancestral Discoveries: The Death Certificate of Alfred Morris

        Ever since I began researching the ancestry of my mysterious paternal grandfather, Luther Allen Saddler Sr., I have found roadblock after roadblock when it comes to my Appalachian roots. This is because Appalachia, and by extension the Deep South, either didn't keep good records, they were lost, or indexed poorly. 

        By far and away, the worst example of this is my 3rd great grandparents, Alfred Morris and Julia Bragg, of Covesville, Albemarle County, Virginia. Even though they both died after 1930 (and Julia after 1940), neither of them seemed to have extant Death Certificates, records, obituaries, graves, anything. The State of Virginia began statewide registration of deaths in 1912, so their deaths had to have been recorded. Yet for years, neither me nor a relative who researches this family could find anything on their deaths. What did we know? In 1930, Alfred Morris, aged 82, and his wife Julia, aged 71, lived with a boarder, Joseph L. Baber, 64, in Samuel Miller, Albemarle County, Virginia. In 1938 Alfred and Julia's son, George Alexander Morris (my 2nd great grandfather) died, and his obituary states that his mother survives him, so we knew Alfred died between 1930 and 1938, while Julia died after 1940 (she appears in the 1940 Census as well). 

        The other day, I posted on Reddit about this conundrum. And much to my amazement, within minutes, a very helpful Redditor had posted a link to Alfred's death certificate, incorrectly indexed on Ancestry as Alfred Mims. It shows that Alfred Morris, aged 84, a farmer, husband of Julia Morris, died on April 13, 1931 in Samuel Miller, Albemarle County, Virginia, of Aortic Regurgitation. Everything is consistent with what we know about his life, down to his place of death. It is almost certainly the same Alfred Morris as my 3rd great grandfather. 

        This is an amazing find, after several years of looking and confusion. Thanks u/phronimost for your help! 

        Friday, January 14, 2022

        My Descent from the Royal Piast Dynasty

        1. Chościsko had:

        2. Piast the Wheelwright, Duke of the Polans and Rzepicha had: 

        3. Siemowit, Duke of the Polans had:

        4. Lestek, Duke of the Polans had:

        5. Siemomysł, Duke of the Polans had:

        6. Mieszko I, Duke and Baptizer of Poland and Doubravka of Bohemia had:

        7. Bolesław I the Brave, King of Poland and Emnilda of Lusatia had:

        8. Mieszko II Lambert, King of Poland and Richeza of Lotharingia had:

        9. Casimir I the Restorer, Duke of Poland and Maria Dobroniega of Kiev had:

        10. Władysław I Herman, Duke of Poland and Judith of Bohemia had:

        11. Bolesław III Wrymouth, Duke of Poland and Zbyslava of Kiev had:

        12. Władysław II the Exile, High Duke of Poland and Duke of Silesia and Agnes of Babenberg had:

        13. Richeza of Poland and Alfonso VII, King of León and Castile had:

        14. Sancho III, King of Castile and Toledo and Blanca of Navarre had:

        15. Alfonso VIII, King of Castile and Toledo and Eleanor of England had:

        16. Berengaria of Castile and Alfonso IX, King of León and Galicia had:

        17. Saint Ferdinand III, King of León, Galicia, Castile, and Toledo and Joan of Ponthieu had:

        18. Eleanor of Castile and Edward I, King of England had:

        19. Edward II, King of England and Isabella Capet the She-Wolf of France had:

        20. Edward III, King of England and Philippa of Hainault had: 

        21. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Katherine Swynford had: 

        22. Joan Beaufort and Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland had: 

        23. Edward Neville, 3rd Baron Bergavenny and Katherine Howard had: 

        24. Margaret Neville and John Brooke, 7th Lord Cobham had: 

        25. Thomas Brooke, 8th Lord Cobham and Dorothy Heydon had: 

        26. Elizabeth Brooke and Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet had: 

        27. Sir Thomas Wyatt the Rebel and Jane Haute had: 

        28. Sir George Wyatt and Jane Finch had: 

        29. The Reverend Hawte Wyatt and Anne Cox had: 

        30. John Wyatt I had: 

        31. John Wyatt II had: 

        32. Ann Wyatt and John Stafford had: 

        33. Joshua Stafford, R.S. and Martha had: 

        34. Ezekiel Stafford and Mary Eastwood had: 

        35. Mary Stafford and John Pittman had: 

        36. Noah Gideon Pittman, C.S.A and Elizabeth Partin had: 

        37. Mary Elizabeth Pittman and Joseph Franklin Winn Jr. had: 

        38. John Washington Winn Sr. and Lula Lavene Benton had: 

        39. John Washington Winn Jr. and Ethel Clemons had: 

        40. LIVING and Luther Allen Saddler Jr. had: 

        41. Brian Keith Winn and LIVING had: 

        42. Me! 



        Wednesday, January 5, 2022

        My Descent from the Royal House of Dunkeld

        1. Kenneth MacAlpin, King of the Picts had:

        2. Constantine I, King of the Picts had:

        3. Donald II the Madman, King of the Picts had:

        4. Malcolm I, King of Alba had:

        5. Kenneth II the Fratricide, King of Alba and a woman of Leinster had:

        6. Malcolm II the Destroyer, King of Scots had:

        7. Bethóc ingen Maíl Coluim meic Cináeda and Crínán, hereditary Abbot of Dunkeld had: 

        8. Duncan I the Diseased, King of Alba and Suthen had:

        9. Malcolm III Canmore, King of Alba and Saint Margaret of Wessex had:

        10. Saint David I, King of Scotland and Maud of Huntingdon had:

        11. Henry of Scotland, Earl of Northumberland and Huntingdon and Ada de Warenne had:

        12. William the Lion, King of Scotland and Ermengarde de Beaumont, great-granddaughter of King Henry I of England, had: 

        13. Alexander II, King of Scotland had: 

        14. Marjory of Scotland and Alan Durward, descendant of two prominent Gaelic mormaer families, had: 

        15. Anne Durward and William de Ferrers had:

        16. Sir William de Ferrers, 1st Lord Ferrers of Groby and Ellen de Menteith had: 

        17. Henry Ferrers, 2nd Baron Ferrers and Isabel de Verdun had: 

        18. Elizabeth de Ferrers and David de Strathbogie, 12th Earl of Atholl had: 

        19. Elizabeth de Strathbogie and Sir John le Scrope had: 

        20. Elizabeth le Scrope and Thomas Clarell had: 

        21. Elizabeth Clarell and Sir Richard FitzWilliam had: 

        22. 






        39. Brian Keith Winn and LIVING had: 

        40. Me!