Tuesday, June 22, 2021

William Henry Trescot's Poem at the Confederate Soldier Monument

While contemplating the meaning of Confederate ancestry a while back, I stumbled upon a poem that is inscribed, or was inscribed, on the Confederate State Memorial at the South Carolina State Capitol. Personally, all forms of racism, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, etc. are absolutely repulsive and anathema to me. Yet as a passionate genealogist and recorder of family history, I cannot deny the reality- I descend from a legacy of racism. Many of my ancestors owned Slaves- three of my four grandparents descend from Slave owners. And multiple ancestors of mine saw service for the Confederate States of America, an illegitimate entity formed out of rebellion against the Union, in the defense of African chattel Slavery. While I also have ancestors who fought in defense of the Union, more of my ancestors were Confederates then were loyal to the Union. This is probably because much of my maternal ancestry is traced to Dutch immigrants, but the point still stands. And so this moral conundrum is central to my reflections in my genealogical research- how can I love and honor my ancestors, when so many of them led downright evil and despicable lives? 

The inscribed poem on the Confederate Soldier Monument at the South Carolina State House by William Henry Trescot does an excellent job in summarizing my feelings on those men in my ancestry who saw service for a brutal cause. Without them, I would not exist. They are my ancestors just the same as those who fought for the Union, fought for American independence from Britain, came to West Michigan from the Kingdom of the Netherlands, lived as faithful Anglicans and Puritans in Merry Old England and Puritan New England, and were pious Lutherans in the Holy Roman Empire. I honor them as well as all my other ancestors, despite my horror at their lives. 

This monument perpetuates the memory, of those who
true to the instincts of their birth, faithful to the teachings of their fathers,
constant in their love for the state, died in the performance of their duty:
who have glorified a fallen cause by the simple manhood of their lives,
the patient endurance of suffering, and the heroism of death,
and who, in the dark hours of imprisonment,
in the hopelessness of the hospital, 
in the short, sharp agony of the field
found support and consolation in the belief
that at home they would not be forgotten.

Let the stranger, who may in the future times
read this inscription, recognize that these were men
whom power could not corrupt, whom death could not terrify,
whom defeat could not dishonor and let their virtues plead
for just judgment of the cause in which they perished.
Let the South Carolinian of another generation remember
that the State taught them how to live and how to die.
And that from her broken fortunes she has preserved for her children
the priceless treasure of their memories, teaching all who may claim
the same birthright that truth, courage and patriotism
endure forever.


In Memory of Complicated Men: Sgt. Joseph Franklin Winn Sr., James F. Benton, William J. Humphreys, Bartholomew K. Bragg, Noah G. Pittman, and possibly others. 

Saturday, June 19, 2021

On Bentheimer Ancestry

When I first got into Genealogy in the Summer of 2016, I was able to begin tracing back much of my maternal grandfather's ancestry in the Netherlands, because he'd already done the research. Much of my maternal grandmother's ancestry as well is traceable in the Netherlands, although she also has some New England Puritan and Pennsylvania German lines. While documenting her Dutch origins, for example, Ver Hoef (Doornspijk, Gelderland) and Harkema (Ulrum, Groningen), I found two Dutch immigrant families that appear not to have come from the Netherlands. These are the families of my 3rd great grandmother Jennie Grote (1872-1955) and my great-great grandmother Minnie Harmsen (1880-1960). Both of them appear to have born in a land known as the Bentheim, or more specifically, Grafschaft Bentheim, which still puzzles and confuses me. 

The flag of Grafschaft Bentheim, Germany 

The County (Grafschaft in German) of Bentheim is a district (landkreis) in Lower Saxony, Germany, right on the German-Dutch border. It borders the Dutch Provinces of Overijissel (home of my TerVree ancestors) and Drenthe (home of my Strick ancestors). Back in the days of the Holy Roman Empire, the territory that is now Grafschaft Bentheim was a State of the Empire known, not surprisingly, as the County of Bentheim. 

The County has a turbulent history, and according to Harger, "the people of Bentheim have never lost their independence. They became Hanoverians; they were invaded by Napoleon. Prussia took them over in 1866. They lived under the Kaiser and under Hitler. Through all this they came with good courage. If you ask them today about their identity, they just might tell you, 'Wy bin't Groofschappers' (We are from the County)." Some important events in Bentheim history include: 

100 AD: Twente was part of independent Frisia. The Tubanti tribe lived in this area.

719: Charles Martel conquered most of the area and incorporated it into the Carolingian empire.

828: A northern section split off of Twente and became an independent state called Bentheim, having their own counts to rule them almost as a separate country. The rest of Twente is now a part of the Netherlands.

1116: The castle of Bentheim is mentioned for the first time, its wooden structure being completely destroyed in a war between the Holy Roman Emperor and the Duke of Saxony. It was quickly rebuilt. 

1277: The county is divided into Bentheim-Bentheim and Bentheim-Tecklenburg.

1312: Uelsen is taken from Twente & added to Bentheim.

1544: Arnold II of Bentheim-Steinfurt united the counties of Bentheim and Steinfurt, a county just south of present Bentheim. He also made the county Lutheran. Churches turning from Catholic to Lutheran included the ones in Veldhausen, Uelsen and Neuenhaus.

1613: Count Arnold Jobst established the Reformed Church as the religion of the area, most churches then becoming Reformed. They remain Reformed to this day.

1618: The Thirty Years War brought a financial crisis; many towns were plundered by unpaid Catholic Spanish soldiers, seen as a punishment for the area becoming Reformed.

1636: The Plague hits the Bentheim; between fleeing to the Netherlands & dying from the plague, 2/3 of the people of Bentheim vanished.

1643: The county split in 2 again, our half being Bentheim-Bentheim.

1688: Count Ernest Willem became Roman Catholic which caused a fierce crisis. All Reformed pastors were expelled.

1702: Ernest Willem's son, Count Ernest, converted to Lutheranism. A new constitution was written up in favor of the Reformed churches.

1752: The Electorate of Hanover seized the county after 700 years of its fierce independence. Thus the King of England ended up ruling it from very far away.

1803: The house of Bentheim-Bentheim became extinct, and the count of Bentheim-Steinfurt obtained it, including the castle. This family owns the castle and rights to much of the land to this day.

1806: Bentheim spent 10 years being swapped from country to country. In 1806 it was incorporated into Prussia. Then in 1810 it was added to Napoleon’s empire. In 1815 Bentheim returned to Hanover.

1846: Many people who had joined a more conservative Reformed church joined many Dutch people in immigrating to America to worship the way they wanted. This immigration lasted through the 1880's.

1866: Bentheim and Hanover were incorporated into Prussia, then Germany.

Source: Landkreis Grafschaft Bentheim, WikiTree One Place Studies Project

The County of Bentheim is composed largely of fenland, a type of peat-accumulating wetland, and early settlement was concentrated along the banks of the rivers which pass through the county. In culture and language, the Bentheim shares more with Dutch culture then German, which is probably why many Bentheimers in the United States listed their native land as the Netherlands. One longstanding tradition in the Bentheim is that of arranged marriages.  In the old days, the parents arranged for their children to marry a distant relative. Weddings lasted three days with each invited guest giving about 100 DM ($50 in 1988) to the newly married couple. The couple signed the marriage contract before the ceremony. The presentation of the dowry and hope chest was part of the ceremony.

In my Genealogical research, my Bentheimer ancestors have been among my most complicated. 

GROTE 

For the longest time, my 3rd great grandmother, Jennie Grote, was one of my more confusing ancestors. Her birth date was always changing around, but for now it seems she was born on February 14, 1872, and baptized on the 23rd in Uelsen, Grafschaft Bentheim. She was also married three times, which always complicates things. 

Her parents were Jan Hendrik Grote and Geertje Laarman, who both appear in the "Emigrants from Grafschaft Bentheim List" compiled by the Bentheimers International Society: 

Groote, Jan Hendrik—born 1835, married Geerdjen Laarman, from Haftenkamp to Allegan County, Michigan, emigrated 1881

Laarman, Geerdjen—born 1845, married Jan Hindrik Grote, from Haftenkamp to Allegan County, Michigan, emigrated 1881

The couple apparently immigrated to the United States of America in 1881, probably for religious reasons, and settled in Allegan County, Michigan. They appear to have lived in Allegan County for the rest of their lives, as Jan Hendrik died in Fillmore, Allegan on December 4, 1915 and Geerdjen died in Fillmore on January 17, 1922. With the limited information available on this couple, we can draw up a basic family tree. The couple married in Wilsum, Grafschaft Bentheim on January 31, 1864 and had at least three children born in the County before emigration. Their ancestry can be traced to their parents, but no further at the moment. Jan Hendrik was the son of Berend Grote and his wife Janna, and Geerdjen was the daughter of Hendrik Laarman and his wife Miena. This family is definitely a subject of future research, as it appears they moved around quite a bit in the Bentheim- baptizing children in Uelsen, marrying in Wilsum, and apparently residing in Haftenkamp as well. 

HARMSEN 

Even more complicated then the Grote family has been the origins of my great-great grandmother, Minnie Harmsen, wife of the notorious Albert Ver Hoef. Until last summer, her origins were basically one of my biggest brick walls. My research as of last summer showed that she was born circa September 1882 in the Netherlands, and was the daughter of Lucas Harmsen, who is named in her marriage record to Albert. A family reunion document in the possession of my maternal grandfather lists her mother as Zwenna Huls. She emigrated to the United States around 1890-1892, my final immigrant ancestor, and according to her obituary was 8 when she came to this country. In 1900 she was living in Saugatuck, in Allegan County, Michigan, as a servant girl for the Rogers family. On September 4, 1903 she married Albert Ver Hoef and from there her life is pretty well documented. 

However, I could never find any possible candidates for her parents. No births on WieWasWie that could possibly match her, either. So I posted on the Genealogy Subreddit hoping somebody could help me break this brick wall, and it seems we did- she was born in the Bentheim!

From research conducted by a user named Contraseign, it appears that she was baptized as Harmina on September 9, 1880 in Itterbeck, Grafschaft Bentheim, a daughter of Lucas Harmsen and Swenne Hülshuis. This seems to match well with the family reunion documents mentioned earlier, that record that Minnie was a descendant of a Gerrit Jan Vos- apparently, that is her maternal grandfather! He was apparently born in Höcklenkamp, Grafschaft Bentheim in 1835. I also remember seeing some DNA matches that appeared to come from this family, so it seems like we've finally found her origin!

Although more research is needed, particularly into her cause for emigration (possibly coming from the fact that both of her parents were dead by the time that she was 11, and she was in the hands of step-parents), it appears fairly certain that her ancestry can be traced in the Bentheim back to at least the 1700s on a couple of lines. The source I used for much of research however, the "Ortsfamilienbuch Uelsen Familienbericht" seems to lead to more questions then answers. For example, why do a lot of children seem to be taking their mother's names? More research is needed. 

While I still know very little about the Grafschaft Bentheim or her culture and history, I am still proud of my origins there, and it is an integral part of my ancestry. Our ancestors came from this rich and vibrant land, located in Germany but of Dutch culture, fiercely independent, of a checkered religious history, but still a glorious land. One day hopefully I will visit this land. Until then, I hope to eventually find a copy of Ludwig Sager's eminent book, "Die Grafschaft Bentheim in die Geschichte" (County Bentheim in History, or The History of The County of Bentheim). It would be excellent reading material. 

SOURCES: 

https://bentheimheritage.com/   The Bentheimers International Society

https://bentheimheritage.com/resources/emigrants-from-grafschaft-bentheim/   Emigrants from Grafschaft Bentheim List 

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Landkreis_Grafschaft_Bentheim  Landkreis Grafschaft Bentheim

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genealogy/comments/gk16e5/help_breaking_through_a_break_wall_2x_great/   Help breaking through a brick wall (2x great grandmother, Michigan/Netherlands) 

https://www.grafschafter-geschichte.de/   Die Grafschaft Bentheim in der Geschichte (The Grafschaft Bentheim in History) 


“The Vechte River in Summer” by Gary Gemmen


The Emlichheim Baptismal Font (Taufstein)

Long Live the County of Bentheim! 

Tuesday, June 1, 2021

Obituary Observations: George Alexander Morris of Covesville, Virginia and Princeton, West Virginia (1875-1938)

My great-great grandfather, George Alexander Morris, is an enigmatic figure, and possibly the great-great grandparent I'm the most interested in. When I began my research, it took a long time to begin to unravel his life. Firstly because his name, like that of many Southerners, was constantly reported differently. Was his name George? Alexander? Alexandra? Earley? Even Nicholas? It seems like it was George Alexander, but we can't be sure. When I first made contact with my sort of cousin Tony, I did not know that an obituary was even published for great-great grandpa George, but he had found it and uploaded it to his tree: 

Transcription: 

ALEXANDER MORRIS TAKEN BY DEATH

WASHINGTON AVENUE STONE MASON PASSES AFTER SHORT ILLNESS; FUNERAL SERVICES TO BE THIS AFTERNOON

Alexander Morris, 63, died at his home on Washington Avenue at 10:10 o'clock Friday morning following a twenty four-hour illness. He was taken ill Thursday. 

He was born April 19, 1875 at Cavesville, Va., where he resided until 1912 when he moved to Princeton. He was a stone mason. Besides his widow, Rebecca Hall Morris, Morris leaves his mother, Mrs. Al Morris, of Cavesville, Va., one brother, Gene Morris, of Cavesville; and twelve children, Gene, Emmett, Theodore, George, Harvey, Alley, Mrs. Nelle Parish, Mrs. Julia Hardwell, Mrs. Elsie Hare, Mrs. Mary Sadler, Annie Morris, of Princeton; and John Morris, Tug River. Mr. Morris was a member of the local Presbyterian church. 

Funeral services will be conducted at the home at 2 o'clock this afternoon by the Rev. W. R. Smith, Jr., pastor of the Presbyterian church. Burial will be in Helsel Cemetery. 

This Obituary ends up being one of the most useful documents that exists in terms of unraveling the life of my great-great grandfather. Here are some of the facts that I observed:

  • His name is given as Alexander. While this was probably not his full name, it is very likely that he was chiefly known as Alexander to friends and family. 
  • His birth date is listed, April 19, 1875. In the unfortunately extremely common habit endemic to Southern genealogy, this date contradicts the only other specific birth date given, of April 19, 1873 in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007. At the very least his birthday is confirmed as April 19, although this contradicts (!) the 1900 Census, which says he was born in January. The reason I believe 1875 is more accurate then 1873, is because the obituary was printed before the Social Security claim. However, the 1920 and 1930 Censuses report his age as closer to 1873. The claims are still useful genealogically, since they give his SSN: 233-12-4029. 
  • His hometown, as well as the current residence of his mother and brother, is listed as "Cavesville" in Virginia. This is a misprinting of Covesville, an unincorporated community of Albemarle County. Morris is shown living in Albemarle County in both the 1900 and 1910 Censuses, and in 1910 was living directly in Covesville. 
  • Two facts about his life are included, that he was a Stone Mason and a Presbyterian. He must have attended church regularly, as he is listed as a member of the church. 
  • Very importantly, the obituary dates the family's move to Princeton from Covesville as being in 1912. This adds up well with established evidence, and helps prove that his daughter Mary, my great-grandmother, was born in Covesville and not Princeton. In August 1912, his son Emmett was born in Princeton, and in April 1915, his son Gene was born in Princeton. 
  • Death dates are unknown for both his mother and father, but this obituary helps narrow them down. His father is not mentioned as a survivor, meaning that he is already dead, and since his father appears in the 1930 Census, we can date his death as happening between 1930 and May 1938. His mother is still living however, so we can date her death as happening after May 1938. The obituary also gives the name of his father as Al Morris. 
  • The obituary states that he lived on Washington Avenue in Princeton, which helps narrow down the family's residence, although his address is not given. 
  • Twelve children are mentioned as living, and the name of one comes to mind, Harvey, which was also the name of his father-in-law, the unknown Harvey Hall. 
  • His burial site is listed, Helsel Cemetery. 
  • His cause of death is not listed in the obituary, although it was a sudden illness. His death certificate confirms it to be Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis. 
Obituaries are often overlooked, but they can be gold mines of genealogical information for confusing and complicated families such as the Princeton Morris's. 

Lynchings and my Ancestors

The Lynching in America Project has done historians and genealogists a service with their interactive map showing where in America lynchings have occurred, and how many there were, by county. Luckily I have not documented that any of my ancestors participated in a lynching, but it is definitely possible. Several of my pre-1865 Southern ancestors were Slave owners and Confederates, so their twisted values were likely passed on through a few generations. Up to at least my father's maternal grandmother, some parts of my family were openly racist. In the interest of documenting the openly racist society that my paternal ancestors grew up in, I have compiled a list of the counties that my Southern ancestors lived in, with the number of lynchings that they possibly witnessed or participated in, using the Lynching in America Project. 

  • Dyer County, Tennessee (Freels): 7 Reported Lynchings 
  • Haywood County, Tennessee (Clemons, Freels): 4 Reported Lynchings 
  • Laurens County, South Carolina (Winn): 11 Reported Lynchings 
  • McDowell County, West Virginia (Saddler): 4 Reported Lynchings 
  • Mercer County, West Virginia (Saddler, Morris): 10 Reported Lynchings (worst in the State of West Virginia)
  • Navarro County, Texas (Humphreys): 5 Reported Lynchings 
  • Polk County, Florida (Winn, Clemons): 20 Reported Lynchings (one of the brighter counties on the map, and tied with Columbia County for 2nd worst in the State of Florida)
  • Tattnall County, Georgia (Winn, Benton): 5 Reported Lynchings 
  • Toombs County, Georgia (Pittman): 3 Reported Lynchings 
  • Volusia County, Florida (Winn): 4 Reported Lynchings 
Some counties that ancestors of mine lived in before 1865 had several reported lynchings as well:
  • Colleton County, South Carolina (Benton): 10 Reported Lynchings 
  • Tazewell County, Virginia: 7 Reported Lynchings
  • Wythe County, Virginia: 3 Reported Lynchings 
My grandmother's first husband (she wasn't married to my grandfather), the father of my uncle and aunt, was from Pemiscot County, Missouri, which had 3 Reported Lynchings. 

One thing to note, is that not all of my ancestors lived in these counties for the entirety of the time covered by the Lynching in America Project, so there are probably several Lynchings that my ancestors could not have witnessed or participated in. But this is only the beginning of my research and it is very possible I'll never know if any of my ancestors were involved in such a sordid, terrible act. 

FURTHER RESOURCES: 
  • https://lynchinginamerica.eji.org/explore   Lynching in America Project Interactive Map
  • https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/sep/5  Walter Johnson Lynched in Princeton, West Virginia
  • https://www.newschief.com/news/20180505/lynchings-klan-activity-part-of-polks-history  Lynchings, Klan activity part of Polk’s history
  • http://peachypast.blogspot.com/2017/12/4-members-of-padgett-family-go-down-in.html  4 Members of the Padgett Family Go Down in a Hail of Bullets
  • https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/emmett-lynching-america/  Lynching in America

Rest in peace to all victims of Lynching. You will be remembered forever 

Thursday, May 13, 2021

My Descent from the Royal House of Árpád

1. Álmos, Grand Prince of the Hungarians had:

2. Árpád, Grand Prince of the Hungarians had:

3. Zoltán, possibly Grand Prince of the Hungarians and a daughter of Menumorut had:

4. Taksony, Grand Prince of the Hungarians had:

5. Michael, possibly Duke of Nyitra had:

6. Vazul, possibly Duke of Nyitra had:

7. Béla I the Boxer, King of Hungary and Richeza of Poland had:

8. Géza I, King of Hungary and Sophia had:

9. Prince Álmos and Predslava of Kiev had:

10. Béla II the Blind, King of Hungary and Jelena of Serbia had:

11. Géza II, King of Hungary and Croatia and Euphrosyne of Kiev had:

12. Béla III, King of Hungary and Croatia and Agnes of Antioch had:

13. Andrew II, King of Hungary and Croatia and Gertrude of Merania had:

14. Béla IV the "second founder of the State", King of Hungary and Croatia and Maria Laskarina had:

15. Stephen V, King of Hungary and Croatia and Elizabeth the Cuman had:

16. Mary of Hungary and Charles II the Lame, King of Naples had:

17. Margaret of Naples and Charles, Count of Valois had:

18. Joan of Valois and William I the Good, Count of Hainaut had:

19. Philippa of Hainault and Edward III, King of England had:

20. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Katherine Swynford had:

21. Joan Beaufort and Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland had: 

22. Edward Neville, 3rd Baron Bergavenny and Katherine Howard had: 

23. Margaret Neville and John Brooke, 7th Lord Cobham had: 

24. Thomas Brooke, 8th Lord Cobham and Dorothy Heydon had: 

25. Elizabeth Brooke and Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet had: 

26. Sir Thomas Wyatt the Rebel and Jane Haute had: 

27. Sir George Wyatt and Jane Finch had: 

28. The Reverend Hawte Wyatt and Anne Cox had: 

29. John Wyatt I had:

30. John Wyatt II had:

31. Ann Wyatt and John Stafford had: 

32. Joshua Stafford, R.S. and Martha had: 

33. Ezekiel Stafford had: 

34. Mary Stafford and John Pittman had:

35. Noah Gideon Pittman, C.S.A and Elizabeth Partin had: 

36. Mary Elizabeth Pittman and Joseph Franklin Winn Jr. had: 

37. John Washington Winn Sr. and Lula Lavene Benton had: 

38. John Washington Winn Jr. and Ethel Clemons had: 

39. LIVING and Luther Allen Saddler Jr. had: 

40. Brian Keith Winn and LIVING had: 

41. Hunter Ryan Winn, me. 

Tuesday, May 11, 2021

My Descents from the Princes of Wales

NOTE: Because there are multiple dynasties and families involved, to simplify the presentation, I will only include the prince's descents down to my gateway ancestor, the Reverend Hawte Wyatt, or to where they intersect with other presented lineages. I have included my descent from him in other posts. 

Descent from Llywelyn the Great, 1: 

1. Llywelyn the Great, Prince of Gwynedd and Joan of England had:

2. Gwladus Ddu and Ralph de Mortimer had:

3. Roger Mortimer, 1st Baron Mortimer and Maud de Braose had:

4. Edmund Mortimer, 2nd Baron Mortimer and Margaret de Fiennes had:

5. Roger Mortimer, 1st Earl of March and Joan de Geneville had:

6. Maud de Mortimer and John Charlton, 2nd Baron Charlton had:

7. Joan de Cherleton and Sir John de Beauchamp had:

8. Alice Beauchamp and Sir Thomas le Boteler had:

9. Joan Boteler and Hamon Belknap had:

10. Philip Belknap and Elizabeth Woodhouse had:

11. Alice Belknap and Henry Finch had:

12. Sir William Finch and Elizabeth Cromer had:

13. Sir Thomas Finch and Katherine Moyle had:

14. Lady Jane Finch and George Wyatt had:

15. The Reverend Hawte Wyatt. 

Descent from Llywelyn the Great, 2: 

1. Llywelyn the Great, Prince of Gwynedd had:

2. Marared ferch Llywelyn and John de Braose, Lord of Bramber had:

3. William de Braose, 1st Baron Braose and Aline de Multon had:

4. William de Braose, 2nd Baron Braose had:

5. Aline de Braose and John de Mowbray, 2nd Baron Mowbray had:

6. John de Mowbray, 3rd Baron Mowbray and Joan Plantagenet of Lancaster had:

7. John de Mowbray, 4th Baron Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave had:

8. Thomas de Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk and Lady Elizabeth FitzAlan had:

9. Margaret Mowbray and Sir Robert Howard had:

10. Katherine Howard and Edward Neville, 3rd Baron Bergavenny had:

11. Margaret Neville and John Brooke, 7th Lord Cobham had:

12. Thomas Brooke, 8th Lord Cobham and Dorothy Heydon had: 

13. Elizabeth Brooke and Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet had: 

14. Sir Thomas Wyatt the Rebel and Jane Haute had: 

15. Sir George Wyatt and Jane Finch had: 

16. The Reverend Hawte Wyatt 

Descent from the Lord Rhys: 

1. Rhys ap Gruffydd, Prince of Deheubarth had:

2. Angharad ferch Rhys and William Fitz Martin had:

3. William Fitz Martin had:

4. Sir Nicholas Fitz Martin and Isabel had:

5. Nicholas Fitz Martin and Maud de Bryan had:

6. Sir William Martin and Eleanor Fitz Reynold had:

7. Joan Martin and Nicholas Audley, 1st Baron Audley had:

8. James Audley, 2nd Baron Audley and Joan de Mortimer (descendant of Llywelyn the Great) had: 

9. Joan de Audley and Sir John Tuchet had:

10. John Tuchet and Maud de Grey had:

11. Sir John Tuchet and Elizabeth Stafford had:

12. Sir James Tuchet, 5th Lord Audley and Margaret de Ros had:

13. Elizabeth Audley and Edward Brooke, 6th Baron Cobham had:

14. John Brooke, 7th Lord Cobham and Margaret Neville had: 

15. Thomas Brooke, 8th Lord Cobham (intersects with generation 12 in the prior descent). 

Descent from Hywel Dda: 

1. Hywel Dda, King of Deheubarth and Elen ferch Llywarch had:

2. Owain ap Hywel, King of Deheubarth had:

3. Einion ab Owain had: 

4. Cadell ab Einion had:

5. Tewdwr ap Cadell had:

6. Rhys ap Tewdwr, King of Deheubarth and Gwladys ferch Rhiwallon had:

7. Gruffydd ap Rhys, King of Deheubarth and Gwenllian ferch Gruffydd had:

8. Rhys ap Gruffydd, Prince of Deheubarth ("the Lord Rhys", of the earlier lineage). 

Descent from Gruffydd ap Llywelyn: 

1. Gruffydd ap Llywelyn, King of Wales and Ealdgyth of Mercia had:

2. Nest ferch Gruffydd and Osbern Fitz Richard had:

3. Nest ferch Osbern and Bernard de Neufmarché had:

4. Sibyl de Neufmarché and Miles of Gloucester, 1st Earl of Hereford had:

5. Bertha of Hereford and William de Braose, 3rd Lord of Bramber had:

6. William de Braose, 4th Lord of Bramber and Maud de Saint Valéry had: 

7. William de Braose and Maud de Clare had:

8. John de Braose, Lord of Bramber and Marared ferch Llywelyn had:

9. William de Braose, 1st Baron Braose (intersects with prior lineages). 

Descent from the Princes of Powys Wenwynwyn:

1. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys and Hunydd ferch Einudd had:

2. Gruffydd ap Maredudd had:

3. Owain Cyfeiliog, Prince of Powys Wenwynwyn had:

4. Gwenwynwyn ap Owain, Prince of Powys Wenwynwyn and Margaret Corbet had:

5. Gruffydd ap Gwenwynwyn, Prince of Powys Wenwynwyn and Hawise Lestrange had:

6. Owen de la Pole, 1st Lord of Powis and Joan Corbet had:

7. Hawys Gadarn and Sir John de Cherleton, 1st Lord Cherleton had:

8. John Charlton, 2nd Baron Charlton and Maud de Mortimer had:

9. Joan de Cherleton (intersects with prior lineages). 

Descent from the Princes of Powys Fadog: 

1. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys and Hunydd ferch Einudd had: 

2. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys and Susanna ferch Gruffudd had: 

3. Gruffydd Maelor, Prince of Powys Fadog and Angharad ferch Owain had:

4. Madog ap Gruffydd, Prince of Powys Fadog and Isota had:

5. Gruffydd ap Madog, Prince of Powys Fadog and Emma de Audley had:

6. Angharad ferch Gruffydd and William le Boteler had:

7. William le Boteler, 1st Lord Boteler of Wem and Beatrice had:

8. William le Boteler, 2nd Lord Boteler of Wem and Joan de Sudeley had:

9. Sir Thomas le Boteler and Alice Beauchamp had: 

10. Joan Boteler (intersects with prior lineages). 

Wales is a complicated country, that was divided into many different principalities. There are possibly other descents that I have not mentioned. Another thing that I have not mentioned is the ancestry of the Welsh Princes included in this article. For example, Llywelyn the Great was a great-grandson of Gruffudd ap Cynan, one of the most important figures in Welsh resistance to Norman rule. They were descendants of Rhodri the Great. And they were all descendants, through traditional lineages, of the important mythical figures of Celtic Wales, such as Coel Hen, Llywarch Hen, and Cadwaladr. 

Gadewch inni anrhydeddu ac ymfalchïo yn ein treftadaeth a'n gwreiddiau Cymreig! 




Mae ein gwaed Cymreig, a basiwyd i lawr trwy ein disgyniadau pur a chyfreithlon o Dywysogion Cymru, yn helpu i'n tywys, a byddwn bob amser yn amddiffyn Cymru, gwlad arwriaeth.

My Descent from the Royal House of Capet

1. Hugh Capet, King of the Franks and Adelaide of Aquitaine had:

2. Robert II the Pious, King of the Franks and Constance of Arles had:

3. Henry I, King of the Franks and Anne of Kiev had:

4. Philip I the Amorous, King of the Franks and Bertha of Holland had:

5. Louis VI the Fat, King of the Franks and Adelaide of Maurienne had:

6. Louis VII the Young, King of the Franks and Adela of Champagne had:

7. Philip II Augustus, King of France and Isabella of Hainault had:

8. Louis VIII the Lion, King of France and Blanche of Castile had:

9. Saint Louis IX, King of France and Margaret of Provence had:

10. Philip III the Bold, King of France and Isabella of Aragon had:

11. Philip IV the Fair, King of France and Joan I of Navarre had:

12. Isabella Capet the She-Wolf of France and King Edward II of England had:

13. Edward III, King of England and Philippa of Hainault had: 

14. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster and Katherine Swynford had: 

15. Joan Beaufort and Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland had: 

16. Edward Neville, 3rd Baron Bergavenny and Katherine Howard had: 

17. Margaret Neville and John Brooke, 7th Lord Cobham had: 

18. Thomas Brooke, 8th Lord Cobham and Dorothy Heydon had: 

19.  Elizabeth Brooke and Sir Thomas Wyatt the Poet had: 

20. Sir Thomas Wyatt the Rebel and Jane Haute had: 

21. Sir George Wyatt and Jane Finch had: 

22. The Reverend Hawte Wyatt and Anne Cox had: 

23. John Wyatt I had: 

24. John Wyatt II had: 

25. Ann Wyatt and John Stafford had: 

26. Joshua Stafford, R.S. and Martha had: 

27. Ezekiel Stafford had: 

28. Mary Stafford and John Pittman had: 

29. Noah Gideon Pittman, C.S.A and Elizabeth Partin had: 

30. Mary Elizabeth Pittman and Joseph Franklin Winn Jr. had: 

31. John Washington Winn Sr. and Lula Lavene Benton had: 

32. John Washington Winn Jr. and Ethel Clemons had: 

33. LIVING and Luther Allen Saddler Jr. had: 

34. Brian Keith Winn and LIVING had: 

35. Me, Hunter Ryan Winn.